Men are Chauvinistic in Relationships with Women.
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Do you have any idea who and when actually said this?
"It is the best for all tame animals to be ruled by human beings. For this is how they are kept alive.
In the same way, the relationship between the male and the female is by nature such that the male is higher, the female lower, that the male rules and the female is ruled.
The courage of a man is shown in commanding, of a woman in obeying."
Aristotle, 384-322 B.C., Greek Philosopher, Politics
Yes, Aristotle said this. Philosopher and scientist, a student of Plato and teacher of Alexander the Great.
He said this long long ago, when the reality probably justified this view. In the early ages when the outside of a cave was roaring and wild animals were snarling and drooling to have you, a human being, for supper, a man’s role was crucial for a woman. He was the strong one, the defender, the hunter, the supplier. A woman’s role was to please her man, to obey him and to worship him. She would not survive without a man.
For centuries this pattern was carried without doubting its essence. For centuries a woman was lower than a man, she was considered a man’s shadow, his belonging, his servant, a miserable creature without soul, brain and feelings. Good for nothing else except obeying and worshiping her man (just read again Aristotle’s chauvinistic phrase).
Does a woman want to fight with a man for a priority
Man vs Woman
Time changed a lot in a woman’s role in life, but men would not agree to loose their priority so easily. They would do anything to keep their leadership in a family. If a woman is lucky, it will be easy for her to keep her man on a pedestal, granted that a man is the strong one, the defender, the supplier.
It is not true that a woman wants to fight with a man for a priority. A woman in general wants to be just a wife and a mother, she wants to cherish and praise her man. She wants to be protected, cared for and provided for. If a man cannot do it for his woman, she would step up and do the same for her and her children.
The problem is that contemporary life puts up so many challenges in front of men and women that a woman grew up into a self-sufficient personality able to provide for herself and for her children. When a man and a woman both work and share the role of supporters and providers, they should also share the house work and consequently should share the respect. The man is no longer number one just because he happened to be born with reproductive organs outside of his body and not inside.
The question arises, why is a woman supposed to put a man on a pedestal and worship him, if she herself is doing the same things a man was supposed to do for her.
There was a German saying that nails it straight- “A woman should know 3 Ks- Kinder, Küche, Kirche (children, kitchen, church) An average woman would comply with this, granted that a man will do the role of a supporter, a provider.
I believe in togetherness and mutual respect.
If you check up dating sites, like plentyoffish.com, or cupid.com, or any other dating site, you will find out that women are writing about themselves that they are very gentle, domestic and respectful. Men are writing that they are mature and family orientated.
Here are random qualifications of men how they present themselves:
- I'm a very goal oriented individual, mature and sophisticated.
- I will do anything for my soul match.
- I believe in togetherness and mutual respect.
Not a word about priorities, not a word that a woman should put a man on the pedestal and worship him as number one no matter what.
When do men change? When do they reveal that male chauvinism in them?
Those men usually summon the Bible to support their chauvinistic inclinations. Their first argument is that God first created a man and then a woman. Well, there is only one answer to this- it is very important to make a perfect creation, so God first exercised, creating a man (tried first), and then, after trying his hand, he really created a woman, without mistakes. Actually, my memory hints to me that the first God’s creation was a unisex creation, male and female (Male and female he created them in the image of God(Genesis 1:26-28)).
A woman takes over man's role not by choice!
Want to be the most important? Earn it!
OK, no problem, if a man for the sake of complementing his own ego wants that a woman surrenders to him as to the leader, he should made a ground for this. This simple.
A woman will be just happy to praise her man, she will put him on a pedestal easily, if a man is providing for her. But if they both are playing equal role in providing for the house, there is no priority. She is exactly the same important as a man, period.
Chauvinistic men are usually those who are insecure, not sure in themselves and that’s why they need constant artificial proof that they are most important.
Guess what- not always. So, men should better make it straight for themselves and get it real- life is not that simple as religion would teach you.
Deserve your woman’s respect, but don’t demand it for granted.
Well, that hint was just a joke, but in reality....
.... IS IT FAIR TO ACCEPT MEN'S PRIORITY OVER WOMAN WITHOUT QUESTIONS?
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hahahahahaha. I enjoyed tremendously reading your hub! You seem like a woman of great self-esteem! Keep hubbing! Oh, and I agree with you on this one!
Oh, and my answer is- NO, it is NOT fair to grant a man a priority just because! I will put him "first" if I depend on him and if he proves that he is worth of being my priority. Otherwise, man and woman are equally important!
We are usually the weaker vessel in strength , but not in brains! Mama says that marriage is not 50%- 50%, but each should give 100% to make it the best marriage it can be.
I think every relationship is unique and each partnership has to work out an equal and fair distribution of duties and labor. For one person cleaning isn't much a chore, more a joy (yes there are such people). To assume that one person should rule another just on the basis of their gender is wrong. People who summon the bible to support their chauvenism as you say should read Ephesians 5:21 and live it out fully, before they think about reading Ephesians 5:22. Thanks for the post!
this is a very interesting topic and I would have to say that in many ways when you have a married couple and both are providing an income it does begin to blur the lines of the man being the provider, the huter, the one taking care of his wife. The one way to add back some of the man into the relationship for for the man to still date the woman. It is important for a man in a relationship to continue to date his wife, this will make her feel more like a woman and I belive that to this day it is important.
I honestly don't get why this matters so much. We all love and need each other. Why do you think we search for our "soulmate"? We each play roles that cannot be without the other, otherwise we feel incomplete and unhappy. Therefore, this discussion of who is above the other is irrevelant because the truth is we both need each other to be happy. We are all only humans that long for companionship.
Men are unsure in themselves and insecure, that's why they just have to prove their priority in every thing. Women don't have to prove anything.
Funny you quote philosophers from thousands of years ago. The male of nearly all animal species is dominant and it stands to reason that through human history and development men have had to be dominant to ensure survival. The natural world is aggressive and harsh and needs strength to live in. I actually believe those ancient philosophers were very intelligent for making statements like that and that it had nothing to do with chauvanism. Women have easier lives now due to technology and medicine that was pioneered by men! So good on Aristotle for being so wise and intelligent!!!
Also men demand nothing and I believe are more aware of the concept of respect than women are. Men in general have always respected women and held them in higher regard than other men in society. But I do agree men need womens approval, we all need each others approval no matter who or what we are.
I did read it thanks. My point is there really isnt much use in mentioning what Aristotle said in the modern day. Few men, if any would ever hold a view like that. In fact i tend to think men who are chauvinistic are acceptable. Men are nowhere near as sexist as women are and because real chauvinists are so few i find them forgivable and even refreshing.
Women have to earn mens respect too. Men dont take it for granted, but women sure as hell do. All men have to respect women according to the femifascist dogma.
very nice read... men... all men are taught by women... somewhere along the way, the boys begin to doubt that mother was right about things... strange huh... women teach men to love, to be proud, to be compassionate, to be strong, to respect their dad's and try and be like him... now if we didn't respect men would we get involved in that BS... I don't think so.... men are the most important because we make them the most important... still little boys to me...















raisingme 22 months ago
"It is the best for all tame animals to be ruled by human beings. For this is how they are kept alive." It could be that in his stating this and equating it to the relationship between a man and a woman (in his day) that a woman's survival was dependent upon the man's ability to protect her. The word obey is derived from oboedire and I should think when a man of that time issued an order or a command it was given out of protection and it would behoove a woman to "give ear to it". Considering man's survival is dependent upon both women and animals such an arrangement seems wise rather than chauvinistic. It could well be that what has been lost in the translation between Aristotle's time and our own has skewed the original intention and meaning.
For example, the word weird is derived from wyrd, an Anglo-Saxon noun of the word weopan - 'to become'. Now the most common definition is 'odd'. Politicians and religious leaders have and still do ascribe meanings to words that are not in alignment with their origins if not altered altogether. Could be that is what is behind many of the problems in our understandings and our ineffective relationships with one another, at least in part.
Great Hub. I'm all for anything that will cause people to look, to examine and that is exactly what this hub does. Well Done.